Comments on: The Episcopal Church http://putmeinabox.com/2009/07/the-episcopal-church/ AND I'LL GET OUT Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:58:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dylan http://putmeinabox.com/2009/07/the-episcopal-church/comment-page-1/#comment-85 Dylan Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:46:33 +0000 http://putmeinabox.com/?p=50#comment-85 Thanks for your review of DO25 I really do not understand why lesbians and gays are still such a big issue for the church. I am a christian, and I am appalled at the amount of homophobia and gay bashing that occurs in the guise of piety Thanks for your review of DO25
I really do not understand why lesbians and gays are still such a big issue for the church. I am a christian, and I am appalled at the amount of homophobia and gay bashing that occurs in the guise of piety

]]> By: Pam http://putmeinabox.com/2009/07/the-episcopal-church/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Pam Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:19:07 +0000 http://putmeinabox.com/?p=50#comment-42 I just wish all of mankind would GET OVER IT and get along. I have a great deal of difficulty understanding how so much hate, non-acceptance and fear can be kept alive and how it just keeps stupidity going. I prefer to think of us someHOW managing to grow so that we can ALL get along equally. That should take another millenium at the rate we are going if we don't self-destruct. I just wish all of mankind would GET OVER IT and get along. I have a great deal of difficulty understanding how so much hate, non-acceptance and fear can be kept alive and how it just keeps stupidity going. I prefer to think of us someHOW managing to grow so that we can ALL get along equally. That should take another millenium at the rate we are going if we don’t self-destruct.

]]> By: Lainie http://putmeinabox.com/2009/07/the-episcopal-church/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Lainie Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:28:46 +0000 http://putmeinabox.com/?p=50#comment-41 Caroline, my gut reaction is that if people are that dedicated to a non-inclusive, judgmental church, there are plenty to choose from -- but then that is perhaps reverse judgmentalism from me. Bob, thanks for that link--it really explains a lot the thinking behind the original resolution. Now we get to wait to see what happens with CO56, I guess. Caroline, my gut reaction is that if people are that dedicated to a non-inclusive, judgmental church, there are plenty to choose from — but then that is perhaps reverse judgmentalism from me.

Bob, thanks for that link–it really explains a lot the thinking behind the original resolution. Now we get to wait to see what happens with CO56, I guess.

]]> By: Bob Chapman http://putmeinabox.com/2009/07/the-episcopal-church/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Bob Chapman Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:22:42 +0000 http://putmeinabox.com/?p=50#comment-38 I would suggest you read what the authors of D025 actually meant when writing their original resolution (which has since been amended). http://www.centeraisle.net/Features_News/Sun11_D025.html It is a confusing mish-mash of ideas. I'm convinced that the D025 supporters at Integrity have not read the explanation for the resolution, which is where you found the "“The acceptance of the ministry of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender persons is not settled...." language. Technically, the explanation is not the actionable part of the resolution, so it can be ignored. Still, it gives the legislative history of the resolution. The cheers of victory or cries of defeat are way to early. D025 did not change the ordination canons, the very canons that were used in getting the consents for Bishop Gene Robinson. I would suggest you read what the authors of D025 actually meant when writing their original resolution (which has since been amended). http://www.centeraisle.net/Features_News/Sun11_D025.html

It is a confusing mish-mash of ideas. I’m convinced that the D025 supporters at Integrity have not read the explanation for the resolution, which is where you found the ““The acceptance of the ministry of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender persons is not settled….” language. Technically, the explanation is not the actionable part of the resolution, so it can be ignored. Still, it gives the legislative history of the resolution.

The cheers of victory or cries of defeat are way to early. D025 did not change the ordination canons, the very canons that were used in getting the consents for Bishop Gene Robinson.

]]> By: Caroline http://putmeinabox.com/2009/07/the-episcopal-church/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Caroline Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:06:45 +0000 http://putmeinabox.com/?p=50#comment-37 Thanks for your insightful thoughts on thus. I'm excited about DO25. I've also appreciated the welcoming of all, regardless of orientation. It's hard to have a dedicated choir with a few folks feeling unwelcome by the larger church! I've heard from some (rather narrowminded in my opinion) priests that they're hoping most individual bishops will choose "no" if it's left up to individual states to decide. One actually told me that if mist bishops chose "no" for the allowance of blessings of same-sex unions, that would save the church. Unbelieveable!! I'm not sure how he can be so smart and so stupid at the same time! Thanks for your insightful thoughts on thus. I’m excited about DO25. I’ve also appreciated the welcoming of all, regardless of orientation. It’s hard to have a dedicated choir with a few folks feeling unwelcome by the larger church! I’ve heard from some (rather narrowminded in my opinion) priests that they’re hoping most individual bishops will choose “no” if it’s left up to individual states to decide. One actually told me that if mist bishops chose “no” for the allowance of blessings of same-sex unions, that would save the church. Unbelieveable!! I’m not sure how he can be so smart and so stupid at the same time!

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